Hip Mama
Steve Burns: The Interview
By:
Trixie Dumont
Source
(no longer online)
Steve Burns is the entertainer of children, comrade of the blue dog,
the mellow, calming voice, coming from the video machine as I make
dinner, make phone calls, breathe. He is my sometimes 15 minute passport
to freedom and my kids like him almost as much as I do. But wait, it
gets better.
Steve Burns is now also a rock god. Or, as he refers to himself on his
new website, a rock godlet. Working with Steven Drozd from the amazing
band The Flaming Lips and Producer/Engineer Dave Fridmann (who has
worked with bands The Flaming Lips, Mercury Rev, Sparklehorse, Creeper
Lagoon, Elf Power to name a few) he has crafted songs you would be
unlikely to find in Mr. Roger's neighborhood, and although he declares
This album is not for kids. They might like it. But it was written with
grown-ups in mind an element of playfulness is evident when one of his
songs is described as being about a man who invents the most amazing
thing ever invented.
I sat in front of my computer trying to figure out what questions to ask
for this interview. How could I contrive to unravel an enigma that is
disguised as the former host of a wildly successful children's
television show turned rock godlet?
Trixie: Are you contractually bound to say only good things about Blue's
Clues? If not, can you dish some gossip about the show?
Steve: I am not contractually bound to say only good things about Blue's
Clues. If I appear effusive, it's because I have many happy memories.
Gossip? Let's see. Slippery used to arrive at work each morning
without his bubbles. As you might expect we were terribly embarrassed at
first, but by the second season everyone sort of got used to it. Well,
everyone but Tickety. She eventually filed suit with H.O.G. (Household
Objects Guild). They shut us down for a week.
Trixie: How did your perception of being the host of a childrens
television show change from 1996 to 2001? When all was said and done
were you thinking Well, that was a good experience or Oh, the wasted
years! Salt shakers don't really talk.
Steve: When the show first started no one knew what to expect. I thought
the show was brilliant, in a sort of punk rock, kill-your-tv short of
way, but I certainly didn't anticipate a phenomenon. No one did.
Looking back, it was (is) a fascinating experience. An honor and a
privilege.
Trixie: Who are your most gushing fans the children who watch your
(former) show, or their parents? What has been your freakiest fan
moment?
Steve: The parents, by far, outweigh the children in terms of fanaticism.
Parents seem truly grateful for Blue's Clues. They often go all out to
thank me.
Once, a man brought his young son over to meet me at a hockey game.
They were perfectly nice people. Problem was, I happened to be standing
at a urinal at the time. Urinating. Somehow, I found it difficult to
have a discussion about the mechanics of skidooing while midstream. I
told him this and he asked me for an autograph. I asked him for a
snowbank.
Trixie: Do you ever just want to flatten people who think they are being
funny by singing Blue's Clues songs to you like, do people at the post
office sing "We just got a letter" when they see you walk in the front
door? And in your head you are thinking: Fuck off asshole! but you just
nod and smile, nod and smile?
Steve: Yes. People often expect me to be outrageously merry upon demand,
which is a tough expectation to meet. Richard Simmons would have trouble
meeting that expectation. Sometimes, I just want to be sort of sad. It
is a weird thing to be listening to Fake Plastic Trees and get to the
good part, I mean really good part- the part where he says she looks
like the real thiiiing and your sooo into it and you feel so wonderfully
glum and you look up and there are four nannies with strollers beaming
at you ear to ear from across the subway car. It can get uncomfortable,
but I just think of the good the show does, and how incredibly lucky I
am to ever have had that job. And more often than not, those who are
suddenly moved to sing/shout the mail song in public are also bold
enough to perform at least a general approximation of the tail wagging,
arms flailing, G-rated disco that accompanies it. Which is a great thing
to see, I gotta tell you.
Trixie: Many parents are uncomfortable with exposing their children to a
lot of media, even a show like Blue's Clues, which seems relatively
benign, because of the commercial aspect of it all. What is your opinion
of advertising and merchandising directed at children?
Steve: I am highly critical of overly commercial children's television. I
fully understand that a show needs to generate revenue by licensing and
selling toys, (I participate in the sales of Blue's Clues merchandise)
but there needs to be some degree of restraint. I guess it's about
emphasis. When a show starts creating characters based on their ability
to be easily rendered in plush for example, then it has clearly gone too
far. The show starts to function as prolonged commercial which, when
directed toward very young children, is hardly fair. It is one thing to
tell a thirty year old man that he will be cool, less bald and super
studly if he drives a convertible sports car, but telling a four year
that he or she has GOT TO CATCH EM ALL!!!!! seems beyond manipulative.
Almost sinister, when you consider how young the target demographic can
be.
Trixie: I bet if you waited about 10-15 years, until all of your fans were
of voting age you could be elected President of The United States Of
America! If you were elected, what is the first thing you would do?
Steve: I would outlaw the forwarding of all chain letters and otherwise
annoying, useless content via global interweb. Any fracture of this law
would be punished by immediate wedgie.
Trixie: Who has more charisma: George W. Bush or a sock monkey?
Steve: I would have to go with the sock monkey. But in all fairness to
Dubya, I have met some very charismatic sock monkeys.
Trixie: Your friends describe you as:
A) A funny guy
B) A man with a heart of gold
C) A quivering, emotional wreck
D) None of the above
Steve: E) all of the above
Trixie: I've read other interviews with you where you indicated a real
respect for your Blue's Clues audience and that you had rejected certain
roles, which you thought might be at odds with your persona as a
children's icon. Now that you are no longer with the show will you
accept other acting jobs? Can we expect to see you playing villains on
television/starring in adult romances on the big screen, or is all
acting on hold while you concentrate on making music?
Steve: I was, and remain, concerned with preserving the image of the
character. But it becomes tricky: I need to put some distance between me
and Steve the Character, but I don't want to destroy the image. You
would be amazed at how many seemingly wise and responsible media types
have suggested that I do something horrible in public, to kill Steve.
That seems absurd to me. I worked very hard on that persona and have
seen it do actual good in the world. Why would I want to destroy it? Hip
Mamas of the world, tell me: What is wrong with people?
Trixie: Were you a sought after slow dance partner at your high school
dances?
Steve: No. I was right there at very-uncomfortable-face-in-breasts level.
It wasn t until years later that realized what a marvelous opportunity
that really was.
Trixie: Who were/are your musical influences as a kid/now?
Steve: As a kid I was very taken with the Rocky soundtrack. I still am. My
oldest sister also played a lot of Bowie, for which I am eternally in
her debt.
The three most important records to me have been The Unforgettable
Fire (U2), OK Computer (Radiohead), and The Soft Bulletin (The Flaming
Lips). Lately I ve been listening to early Bowie. And the Spacemen 3.
And Stevie Wonder. Has anyone heard the Phantom Planet record? I heard
one song and liked it.
Trixie: Do you ever play air guitar when nobody is around?
Steve: I am much more likely to air drum. I think it looks way cooler.
Steven (Drozd) HATES it when I do that. So I make point to do it A LOT,
no more than eight inches away form his face, staring right at him. Ah,
the shenanigans.
Trixie: Will you be touring with your new album? Are albums even called
albums anymore? Should this question be: Will you be touring with your
new cd/release?
Steve: I ll let you know the answer to that just as soon as I get a record
deal. Do any of the Hip Mamas work for Matador?
Trixie: If you come to my town, can I be on the guest list?
Steve: Yup. Bring your homies. Just don t ask me to do the mail song.
Intrigued about the Man? Want to know more about Steve Burns? About dust
mites? About squirrels? Have a need for affirmation? Check out his
amazing new website and be sure to sign up for his mailing list
so you don't miss out on a damn thing!
Trixie Dumont is a
full-time stay at home mom to two unschooling children. She is writer
for children's television and the producer of a new top secret Hip Mama
project. She is currently writing a children's book. |