
Talking to Steve
Burns on the phone is kind of like talking to Steve Burns in space. The
disembodied voice, the slight distortion of his cell phone, the burst of
radioactivity that momentarily intercepts his signal as if ground
control is trying to touch base. The latter is more likely a rogue
transmission from the National Severe Weather Center in Norman,
Oklahoma, outside which Burns sits in the parking lot, finishing off
this his last interview of the day before touring the facilities. He’s
there to shoot backing video for "Troposphere," a song in which the
eponymous atmospheric layer — where most weather changes occur — is used
as a metaphor for the limbo that follows heartbreak. It is the song most
likely to be overplayed from his debut album, Songs for Dust Mites.
He's also visiting with the Flaming Lips, some of whom helped produce
the album.
The press machine
is just beginning to whirl for Dust Mites, but it already seems
that the useful adjectives are taken: sweeping, cinematic, lush. It’s a
gentle album, if such a thing can be said of rock without causing
insult. Maybe it’s because Burns, 29, used to work with kids — or for
them — solving puzzles with an animated dog and ruminating in the
Thinking Chair on Nickelodeon's Blue's Clues for six years before
retiring in 2002. He’s sorted himself out after the safety of children’s
television writing "sweet songs about science and love," propelling
himself through the cosmos of adult emotion and childlike vulnerability
that is the stuff of good pop music. — Su Ciampa
Nerve: Are you staying at Flaming Lips Headquarters?
Steve
Burns: Yeah, I'm staying at Wayne [Coyne]’s house.
What goes on
there?
The first time I went there, I was shown to a room where I would be
sleeping where there was a life-sized rubber eviscerated man on the
couch. There is a space station being constructed in the backyard. These
things are not exaggerated.
"I have a feeling that any groupies would be forward-thinking soccer
moms at this point."
It seems like you've gotten quite chummy with them. Steve Drozd and Dave
Fridmann worked on your album, and you appear in the Flaming Lips movie
Christmas on Mars. Before that, you were a self-professed Flaming Lips
fan. What's it like becoming friends with your idols?
It was
really very natural. They are maybe even nicer than they are talented.
It is kind of weird because I'm such a big fan of them—of their music—I
am like a screaming fan, but I'm also a big fan of them personally now.
How did Drozd and Fridmann initially get involved with your album?
Well, I
kind of stalked Dave Fridmann. I knew someone who had his phone number
and I kind of inappropriately called him. I was getting involved in
music production myself, just as a hobbyist, and when I finally talked
to him he told me he had had a Blues Clues party the night before [for
his son]. So I opportunistically guilted him into listening to my CD.
And he called me back and said, This is pretty good, would you ever want
to work on it? And I jumped on it.
Why dust mites?
I had seen a photograph of dust mites fighting nanotechnology microgear
machines, and it just freaked me out to the point where I had to start
writing songs about it.
Science is a
recurrent them on the album. What's the attraction? Is the search for
science similar to the search for love?
I think that people tend to separate those two as often as possible.
There's science, and then there's emotion. But I think the pursuit of
science is very passionate. And I think that science is answering
questions about the nature of love and the nature of who we are. It's
asking the same questions. To me it's all very romantic and very
fascinating.
And are you
looking forward to the fan sex?
[laughs] If there is any I'm sure I'll be looking forward to that, but I
think the whole groupie idea is a little premature.
At least it's a nice change from moms wanting to see you naked.
Well, I
have a feeling that any groupies would be forward-thinking soccer moms
at this point.
How did being
an icon to millions of toddlers effect your sex life?
Actually it helped me date a lot more than you'd think it would. I read
an article in GQ once about short and long-term mating characteristics.
And I possess absolutely no short-term mating characteristics. None. I
don't have any of them. But I possess all of the long-term mating
characteristics.
So you're a
breeder, not a lover?
I'm not the alpha male who just gets the attention instantly, but I am
the sensitive guy who's great with kids. Normally, it takes us, those of
the sensitive type, four or five dates to get that across. But because
of Blue's Clues, it was right there on my green-striped sleeve. So it
actually helped.

Burns before . . .

. . . and after.
Do you feel
that you have to overcome the supremely dorky image of Blues Clue's
Steve, and is the album an attempt to do so?
I do feel like I have to overcome that, but I'm also smart enough to
know that I am supremely dorky, and embracing it is going to be a lot
easier than trying to overcome it. I did make a record about
nanotechnology and the troposphere.
Do you think people are more resistant to the idea of your being a
proper musician?
If I were
out there saying, please, no, don't look at me as Steve from Blue's
Clues, look at me as this indie rock godlet, I'd be failing. That’s a
boring story. That's what everyone expects you to do. What I'm saying
is, no, that's me and I'm this guy. It's not one or the other, it's
both.
You've spent
some press time dispelling rumors of your death. Why do you think people
are so keen to assume children's TV personalities have a dark side?
Because it's easier to believe. And it's also more fun. It's something
so incredibly innocent, it's so much more fun to corrupt it. I used to
get tons of emails from bored housewives asking to take me for a ride in
my Thinking Chair. Naked emails and stuff. I was always shocked and
amazed by that. But I think it comes from that same instinct, to corrupt
that which is innocent.
I read that you
didn't take other acting gigs during Blue's Clues to avoid confusing or
upsetting your young audience. Do you feel freer now to try different
things in your acting career?
I do, but I've also kind of abandoned my acting career. When something
interesting comes up, of course I'll do it, but it’s nothing I'm
pursuing.
Do you feel like you have other freedoms now? Blue's Clues Steve had to
be pretty asexual.
There were
a lot of bachelor parties that I've skipped, and, hell yeah, I want to
get me to some bachelor parties! [laughs] But I'm not going on any
benders anytime soon.
Nick Hornby
once defined good music as that which you can dance or drink to, cry or
think about. How would you categorize your music?
Excellent music to watch the Discovery Channel by.