Bob - "Our special
guest today, is a guy that, if you don't know his name, ask a three year
old and they'll tell you: Steve Burns, our special guest. He is the
host, and the only live-action figure - the only human in the highly
rated Nick Junior show called Blue's Clues. (after break) It has become
a phenomenon across the country and we're going to talk about that today
over the course of the next hour or so in some interview segments with
Steve Burns. Steve, thanks for being with us today."
Steve - "Hey, well
thanks; thank you!"
Bob - "Steve is
talking to us from his home in New York. We're going to talk, over all,
about the show. For those folks who may work, or don't know what the
show is, or just heard second hand, Steve, let's talk a little bit about
what it is. Is it true, first of all, that this show is the highest
rated pre-school show on TV now?"
Steve - "Occasionally
it is, yeah. It's definitely the highest rated pre-school show on Cable.
It's difficult to mix markets that way in terms of ratings. It's hard to
tell, you know, where channel 12, or Public Television, is."
Bob - "Yeah, we're
talking about you and Sesame Street though, right?"
Steve - "Pretty
much…and then, there's the other one."
Bob - "You have
more people watching your show than some Cable Prime Time efforts at the
bottom of the pile."
Steve - (chuckle)
"That's right. We're taking over the world."
Bob - (chuckle)
"Starting with the children."
Steve - "That's
right."
Bob - "You're a
dangerous man, as it turns out."
Steve - (great
chuckling)
Bob - "How this
interview came about….focusing on 'why you're interviewing a Cable guy
on the radio station on some children's show' ……well, the thing was, I
have a three year old, so there's a small ulterior motive here, who's
been watching this show since it's inception and has learned a ton from
it and so I was in great admiration of the show. Being a bit of a
computer geek, admiring the computer animation in the show, we put up a
couple of pictures on our home web page for my son to see when he's on
the computer, and low and behold people started finding this page from
all over the Internet desperately searching for Blue's Clues. More than
17,000 visitors as of this morning, and that's just been up a few
months. So I started doing some research. I got a hold of Penelope Jewks,
who's no longer with the show, but used to be on your crew, right?"
Steve - "That used to
be Mrs. Pepper."
Bob - "That's
right, used to be the voice of Mrs. Pepper."
Steve - "She stepped
down."
Bob - "Anyway, one
thing led to another so here we are to talk about this phenomenon that
so many of us as parents…and so many of our kids are enjoying the show..
First of all, your impressions of the show and the way it's taken off.
Did you expect this when you got on board?"
Steve - "Certainly
not. I knew early on after the first couple episodes were fully scored
and animated that we had a real quality show here. But I always
questioned whether or not it would work. The idea of the show is that
it's active and that children will become involved and watch the show,
but also participate in the show. And I didn't know if that would work."
Bob - "How did you
get involved yourself? Were your aspirations to be doing a pre-school
show?"
Steve -"Well, my
aspirations certainly were not to be in a pre-school show. I mean, it's
certainly nothing that I considered; it's nothing I ever thought anyone
would ever let me do. (chuckle) It certainly didn't seem like something
that I would be well suited for. But, you know, I was just auditioning
in and around
New York and my manager sent me out for this audition for an
animated Nickelodeon show. And I had been doing a lot of voice-over work
so I assumed that this was a voice-over gig."
Bob - "Like for a
cartoon….."
Steve - "Exactly. So
I assumed, you know, okay, I'll go be the voice of the salt and pepper
shaker, or something…."
Bob - "Right."
Steve - .."go to the
audition…..but when I got there, there was a camera in the room aimed
right at me so I figured this'd be a good time to jump around a little
bit, you know, haha."
Bob - "If you were
daydreaming, it is probably getting a gig on ER or some movie, right?"
Steve - "Oh,
absolutely. But, you know, I am so lucky to be doing this particular
show because I'm not a big fan of television really. I think television
kind of thinks for you, and you know, that's kind of a big problem.
Especially for children, especially for children, when television is so
often used as a baby-sitter, and a role model, and everything. That
passive attitude toward it has kind of always rubbed me the wrong way,
but this show really nips that in the bud. For that reason, it's very
exciting to be a part of. And plus my job's pretty unique in all of TV,
from what I understand from what people are telling me. There's really
no one else who's doing this much blue screen work, and who's this
highly involved with animation."
Bob - "It must be
difficult to…are you seeing the animation….Let's talk a little about how
the show is made. You are the only live figure, the only person in the
show. The entire length, every single day, day in and day out. You never
have any visitors, there's no speedy delivery or anything else that
comes along the way."
Steve - "Right."
Bob - "You're it.
So you are acting primarily in the blue screen which some people might
better understand as like the weather guy on channel 10…..on the 10:00
news. You're standing in front of a blue screen which is then taken out
and the animated background is put in."
Steve - "Right."
Bob - "But,
without going into something that's going to go over all of our heads,
how do you do that? There are things that are animated in front of you,
behind you; it's a very 3-D effect. Are you constantly looking at
monitors?"
Steve - "No, not at
all. We don't do any of that. It's carefully story boarded beforehand."
Bob - "So, you're
not seeing Blue….."
Steve - "I'm not
seeing anything. I'm seeing a big blue background."
Bob - "And
disappointing as that might be to children, it is phenomenally
impressive….it gives you a great more bit of credibility as an actor….it
must be very…difficult."
Steve - "Well, I
think it's a lot like being absolutely insane." (big laugh!).
Bob - "All right!
Good!" (chuckle)
Steve - "Because, I
just stand there in this blue void and talk to myself. And I also talk
to the camera."
Bob - "…And sing."
Steve - "And sing.
Yeah, you know, I'm having a great time out there. It's a lot like
talking to yourself at the bottom of the swimming pool."
Bob - "And what
are your aspirations beyond this? How long will this show last? What
will Steve be doing five years from now?"
Steve - "We don't
know. We're talking about that right now. It's really hard to say how
long the show will last and will continue. I hope it lasts for a very
long time. As long as kids watch it, anyway. But beyond this, sure, I
would love to be doing film. I'd love to be doing more theater and
perhaps even writing."
Bob - "Do you have
children yourself?"
Steve - "No I don't."
Bob - "Does this
make you want to have children? Does it make you feel differently? Did
you like children before?"
Steve - "I always,
always liked children…I was very afraid of them before. Because I never
really grew up, I mean, with a lot of little kids around. Even though I
am from a kind of Italian family, I never really grew up with a lot of
little kids around. And so, one on one, I always kind of had a great
time with little kids, but in droves and masses and hoards they always
kind of frightened me. But absolutely, I really want one bad."
Bob - "When you go
out, you probably don't wear a two-toned green shirt, but do you get
recognized? Or is your appearance different enough that you can go
through the mall without having every kid in the stroller jump towards
you?"
Steve - "Kids have
never recognized me…it's never happened to me."
Bob - "Really?"
Steve - "Parents
recognize me almost every day. In fact, just yesterday I was walking up
7th Ave.
and a bike messenger almost crashed into a lady because he was staring
at me. And he comes back about ten seconds later and skids to a stop in
front of me and I think I'm about to get beat up."
Bob - "Sure!"
Steve - "You know,
and he says, 'You host the Blue's Clues?' And I said, Yeah. 'My kid
loves you man!' And we talk for ten minutes."
Bob - "Wow. You
must have a pretty cool job, because you literally are on the air in
front of millions of people, and yet no one hassles you."
Steve - "um hum…"
Bob - "which gives
you some kind of celebrity, slash, star status…although, because of who
it is you can walk freely through Manhattan …"
Steve - "Absolutely.
And I think that if I were a for real celebrity that was recognizable
everywhere, I'd just crawl under a rock and you know, have someone run
over the rock with a car, or something."
Bob - "How about
the format of the show. It's the same episode five time a week. First, I
thought it was a mistake the first time that I saw it, then we
discovered that it is by design. What's the thinking behind that?"
Steve - "I think
that's part of the genius of the show. I think that is….it's something
that very few people really understand. And I can understand why, but I
really think it's part of the success of the show. The point being that
repetition is how children learn, especially at this age. And that's why
kids are learning so much from the show. It's entertaining, yes. And
it's colorful. And it's happy. But we repeat the episodes…they're very
multi-layered…and incredibly well-conceived and very well researched. My
hat always goes off to those guys."
Bob - "How long
does it take to put together one show?"
Steve - "A very long
time. We go through, I think, six different drafts of each script. And
then my shooting it is roughly, you know, fifteen percent of the total
work that gets done on a show. Then it's all post-production animation
after that."
Bob - "How many
shows do you make in a season? I know the new season just began."
Steve - "Twenty.
Twenty per season."
Bob - "Let's go to
the mail bag, if you will, mail time. I won't make you sing the song…"
Steve - "Um hum…."
Bob - "These are
from the web site. First of all, since we're talking about the
production, someone wrote and asked that they noticed that the snail
appears in every episode. Is this some sort of insider joke? Or what?"
Steve - "Who wrote
that?"
Bob - "I don't
know. It's unsigned."
Steve - "I'm not
supposed to talk about the snail."
Bob - (chuckle)
"You're not supposed to talk about the snail?"
Steve - "I'm not
supposed to talk about the snail. The snail is, well, congratulations to
whoever noticed it. It's supposed to be a thing where you gotta look for
it in every episode, and it's there three times in every episode."
Bob - "Well see,
that's exactly what they wrote. There are several letters here and two
or three people noticed that it's appeared. One notes that it appears
three times every time. One noticed that it's appeared on the credits,
so….anyway."
Steve - "Yeah."
Bob - "But there's
no reward if they find it, right?"
Steve - "Um, no."
Bob - "Okay."
Steve - "I'm probably
going to get fired now that I talked about the snail."
Bob - (chuckle)
Steve - "It's the big
secret."
Bob - "Oh man,
sorry I had to bring you down."
Steve - "Yeah."
Bob - "Okay, so,
let's go to the next one. You've read some of these so you've had a
chance to think about these a little bit and I want to get your
reaction. I want to read an excerpt from one, 'When Steve appears on
your show, please mention how much he means to our kids. My daughter is
two and a half years old and she doesn't talk yet. Blue's Clues gives
her so much confidence. She can play along, point, and do finger plays
along with Blue and Steve without feeling left out. She's been watching
for about three months and her vocabulary has improved immensely. She
still won't say 'Mom' or 'Dad' but she will say 'Hi Steve.'"
Steve - (big chuckle)
Bob - "'Bethany
and I both love Steve. Thank you for your site.' Jessica and Bethany. So
how does that make you feel? I mean, seriously, you've got a huge impact
upon children, the shaping of their minds, and all the connections going
on in their brain."
Steve - "Yeah. Once
again, I mean, I really have to hand those Cu do's over to the creators
of the show. They've really done such a great job, and they've very
carefully and sensitively researched. They know. They know how to
involve kids. And I think that's obviously a wonderful, wonderful
letter. Makes it all worthwhile."
Bob - "Another one
says, when my thirteen month old son, Zachary, was just old enough to
focus on TV, he was in the hospital having surgery. They wouldn't let
him eat, drink or anything and IV's were pouring out of his little
head/hand?. And it was a pain because they had infiltrated his blood
vessels in his leg trying to get the IV in there. He was in constant
pain; nothing worked. Television didn't work. However, the parents
stumbled upon Blue's Clues because the hospital happened to have cable.
He stopped crying, focused on you, Steve. His little eyes never left
that TV screen until the show was over. I could have kissed Nick Jr. It
goes on to say that the son has been mesmerized by it and they tape the
episodes. And he's doing better now. So, another reaction to that?"
Steve - "That's
fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. And it makes me especially happy
because that shows that television can have a positive impact."
Bob - "Let's move
on. 'I have two little ones. Nick is four, Amber is two'. This is just a
general happy letter. 'They look forward to Blue's Clues every morning
during the day. They sing the songs, pretend to find clues and actually
feel like Steve is talking to them and asking for their help. It makes
them feel smart and he is a lot of fun.' So, there you go. 'Do you know
if they're going to make a computer-based game for the show?' That's the
question from Amanda."
Steve - "I think they
are. I think they're going to make a CD-ROM. And I think that's a great
idea too. I think the show would make an excellent CD-ROM."
Bob - "That's a
natural fit, with the amount of computer work you're already doing."
Steve - "Exactly, and
it's a natural next step and that makes it truly interactive."
Bob - "This one's
from a fourteen year old girl. She says, 'I was just wondering how old
Steve is and if he was married. I think Steve is a wonderful man who
warms children everywhere, and he's a hot babe." (chuckle)
Steve - (chuckle)
Bob - "From a
fourteen year old girl."
Steve - "Well…Um."
Bob - "You're
older than fourteen, right?"
Steve - "Yeah, quite.
But I am painfully single and unmarried."
Bob - "Okay. But I
pulled that one out because it goes to show that people of all ages, and
I will not admit how many times that I have sang along with the show,
and that I know every word of every song, but anyway. (chuckle) It does
appeal to all ages, which is probably a nice bonus."
Steve - "Absolutely.
I mean, that's another big surprise of the show, is that I see sixteen
year old people who recognize me and they're honest, for-real fans of
the show. And it goes down to nine months. I mean, I've heard of nine
month to year-old children who are watching the show."
Bob - "Okay, now
let's talk a little bit about merchandise. Okay. People have been
writing and writing….out of about, close to a thousand e-mails in the
box here about Blue's Clues, about 70% are looking for merchandise. Way
back when I first started talking to the folks at Viacom and
Nickelodeon, your parent company, they all said, well, three year olds
aren't going to buy merchandise and so we probably won't do it. But over
the past year, I think the thinking has changed there (chuckle), and
they realize now that with this highest rated children's show on cable
that maybe they should do some merchandising. However, I'm not sure
you're going to carry all the things that people asked for. I have seen
everything from, 'Please ask if we can get a green stripe-y shirt' down
to the salt and pepper shakers. So where in that wide range of
merchandise do you really think the Blue's Clues line will fall, and any
ideas on when it might actually come out?" (editor's note- since this
interview limited merchandise has been made available at the Viacom
store in Chicago, 1-888-9VIACOM)
Steve - "Well, I
think the battle plan is to test the market first with obvious
merchandise like a little blue plush dog. I've heard talk of green
stripe-y shirts. I've heard talk of notebooks. In terms of secondary
characters, I think that will depend on how the first products do. And I
would expect to see them……soon." (chuckle)
Bob - "What
about…here's a couple of more requests….birthday party supplies."
Aaron, Eric and
Hannah Aita are all big fans of the show.
Mom Anita sent in eric's bday cake pic!
Steve - "Birthday party supplies….that's a fantastic idea. I hope
they're planning that."
Bob - "Let's see,
what else here….Steve doll."
Steve - (chuckle)
"Ah, if it's up to me, no. It won't happen."
Bob - "Okay, let's
see here. Play at home game."
Steve - "Play at home
game…like a board game?"
Bob - "Well, it
looks like they're looking for paw prints and things."
Steve - "Oh. Yeah."
Bob - "I think
most people make those themselves."
Steve - "Right. I
think we are. I know that's been researched. I think they're playing
around with trying to get that one just right. If were gonna do
that….just the little blue plush stamp of the paw prints for you, or do
you get re-usable color form-like stickers that stick to anything. We're
trying to make sure that that one's done just right."
Bob - "Probably
not the permanent marker on the wall…."
Steve - "Anything but
that."
Bob - "Okay. Now,
considering the fact that there's probably hundreds if not thousands of
your dearest fans hanging on every word you say today on the
radio….without forcing a slip into character too much, is there anything
you'd like to say to them as they listen to you and listen to a little
bit more about their hero from TV?"
Steve - "Yeah. I'd
like to just say; Hey everybody! Thank you so much for watching Blue's
Clues. Keep watching. And we'll see you on Nick Jr."
THE END